We are joined by Joy James, Ebenezer Fitch Professor of the Humanities at Williams College and Kalonji Changa, who is a co-founder of Black Power Media and host of a program on the YouTube channel RSTv. Joy James is the editor and Kalonji Changa is the co-author of the new book Beyond Cop Cities: Dismantling State and Corporate-Funded Armies and Prisons. This new book published by Pluto Press examines militarized policing represented by the phenomenon of Cop Cities, militarized police facilities that are springing up across the country. Joy James joins us from New York City and Kalonji Changa from Atlanta.